Captain Obvious

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  Why do you still give talks?

  by 1tMakesNoSence in

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  assuming you are still sitting there because of circumstances.

  why do you still give/don't give talks?i ask this because i have to give talk no.

  3: love and obedience bring happinessnwt p. 26 4-6 (5 min.

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  You ARE allowed to decline to give talks.

  Or you could do what I did and blow a bunch of readings off. Accept the slip, tell em you'll be there then not show up. After a couple times they'll see you as too unreliable to assign talks to.
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  Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

  by LAWHFol in

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  if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

  i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

  if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

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  The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins

  The Demon Haunted World - Carl Sagan
  

  God is not Great - Christopher Hitchens

  Why I am not a Christian - Richard Carrier

  Drunk With Blood - Steve Wells

  Letter to a Christian Nation - Sam Harris

  On the Origin of Species - Charles Darwin

  Start with these. Top to bottom. I actually started with Sagan and went to Dawkins from there, equally effective. Open your eyes!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses 2015 Regional Convention Saturday PM experience parents shunning children

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  clip 3 minutes long.

  ron and brenda sutton ................warwick 3 children

  it was the missed association with family that brought them back.

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  I LOVE that write up. It was my mom getting DFed that began my wake-up process, and put a large divide between my family forever.
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  Today my son told me that he can't stand this religion

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have talked to him ttat.

  and he understands.

  he doesn't wanna be a jw.

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  Well for starters... Congratulations! To him and yourself.

  The conversation you two had today is what many of our dreams are made of. Stop being stressed! Just help him understand what's at stake for your family, help him understand your plan with your family and how he can help.

  The he danger is when your wife questions him on his inactivity or outright disbelief. It will circle right back around to you sooner or later. Probably sooner. Be ready for that, could blow it all wide open but if that's what is going to happen, so be it.

  You need to prepare sir. Prepare for fights with wife and family, confrontations with friends and elders. If it were you alone you could probably pull it off but with him involved... You have no control.

  Reflect on on how fortunate you are that your son is awake! And prepare yourself for the fight of your life.

  I wish you well.
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  "I cant wait to meet Abraham!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  "i can't wait to meet abraham" was the eager comment made by a young 7 year old witness girl.. when asked why, she said "because he was jehovahs friend, and he was even willing to kill his own son!".

  this comment was said with joy and excitement!

  she can't see the obvious issues with this?.

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  The WT doesn't seem to have read Matt 8:11...

  Matt 8:11, NIV - 11 I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
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  disgusted with their smugness

  by LuckyNun in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a few people from my jw past recently friended me on facebook and i accepted.

  it was all good and we sent a few catching-up messages back and forth.

  then i started seeing their newsfeed posts and it was just a bunch of memorial invite spam and nature photos with smug comments on how the chosen ones had paradise to look forward to.

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  Wow... I read a few posts on that right wing news.... Wish I hadn't. Barf!

  I wouldn't say the opinions shared there would reflect JWs exactly though. Just typical American ignorance at its best
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  The mathematical probability of spontaneous order (no designer/creator)

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there seem to be many prerequisites for life as we know it.. to name a few: order, function, compatibility, availability, sustainability, intelligence, consciousness, intuition and so on.. focusing on only one, namely order.. what are the chances of order arising spontaneously, by chance, with no creator/designer?.

  i have often pondered this and recently came across a mathematical summary of the big picture:.

  if every particle in the known physical universe (10^80 particles), participated in one trillion interactions (10^12 interactions) per second, for the entire 30 billion years of the universe's existence (10^18 seconds), then we would by now have covered only 10^110 permutations.. if you had only 100 components in a container, what are the chances that a blindfolded person could lay them out in order on a table?.

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  Fernando, you've started a good discussion but you got the entire premise wrong. Life on earth works on earth. If the earth were any different, and life had still begun, the earth would still be perfect for those life forms. You're looking at things backwards.

  Order can and does arise from disorder, we see it in nature. That's exactly how biology works... Whatever doesn't work is eliminated, what we see now is the result of automatic processes which didn't need divine guidance.
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  Who is Gog of Magog? - Watchtower May 2015

  by jwleaks in

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  2. beliefs

  here we go again... let's study... news report... comment.... who is gog of magog mentioned in the book of ezekiel?.

  for a number of years, our publications have explained that gog of magog is the name given to satan the devil after his ouster from heaven.

  this explanation was based on the fact that the book of revelation identifies satan the devil as the leader of the worldwide attack on gods people.

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  Sooo... Can I be part of Magog?
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  Conversation with a “Genius" JW

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a real conversation i had with a jw friend last night.

  several times previously he claimed to be a certified genius, having supposedly passed the mensa test.... .

  me: so what do you think about jws condoning the idea that dinosaurs could have lived with humans?.

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  So there's a question about whether people "believe" in cabin dating? I understand the WT has tried to shed some doubt on the process, in an attempt to show that history doesn't prove the bible to be inaccurate.. But he was the one who was surprised YOU believed in it? Never heard that one before. 

  I like your line of questioning. It could be adapted for a fader or "in" person to get someone to think. Some JWs like to try to prove that JWism aligns with the facts. These are great questions for those people. 

  well done
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  Building 500 new kingdom halls?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the wtbts has to know they aren't actually going to see their numbers significantly jump anytime soon/ever right?

  are they planning on cutting the rbc down to 1/10th the work force so they can actually slow down their kh projects instead of increasing them?

  or do they think their little website scheme is actually going to bring in more people?.

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  We know the new halls aren't to accommodate growth... There is no growth to speak of in the US.

  So the 500 new halls must be to replace old ones? either they are beyond repair or (more likely) they are replacing investments that have matured (property value has peaked).